Loss of External Harddrive

Hey,

Yesterday when I was switching some sockets I on mistake, turned off the computer and everything else connected to it. Similar things have happened before but this time, my harddrive seems to have taken some damage which really pisses me off since I have everything on it. This is a Western Digital External harddrive with 750 gb space.

The problem that occurs is that the computer becomes slow and I can't access the harddrive and it says something about if I want to format it and I certainly does not want to do that. I believe that the computer knows it's there because it's pretty much all of the time visible even if it takes some time and it makes that common sound everytime I plug it in.

If you want further information I'll be happy to send you it but please be quick I really need it!

EDIT: This is the error I found when I scanned the drive.



Translated: "The disc is not formated The disc in unit H is not formated. Do you wish to format it now?"

Hello,

There's nothing you can do, unfortunately. You can send it to WD and ask for a replacement.

Doc, I have a suggestion...
How about opening the drive by using Run Cmd?
if the drive opens he could take a backup of the data before replacing or formatting

Not sure if it will work, but it's always worth a try.

Is it possible to open it manually and insert it in an other harddrive?

I it will be hard to replace it as I can't find the guarantee, nor do I believe that it's still available for use.

The best option i suggest is that you take a back up of all your Important Data and Format the external hard drive

To access your External Hard drive
Go to RUN
Type in "H:" without quotes
(H: is the Drive of the External Hard disk, might differ on your computer)
and see whether your disk is accessible or not.
If yes, take a back-up of all Data and Format the Hard disk..

This is the error I got (translated from swedish):

H:\ is not available.
The volume contains no known filesystem. Check if all necessary driveroutines for the filesystem are engaged and that the volume isn't broken.

Now that's a serious error My Friend, Bad luck,
Go for a replacement....

Yeah well, I'm actually going for a new comp and fortunately... pretty much all my images/web designs are saved in my mp3 player

What do you think about these? (they are swedish sites but I hope you can guide yourself through it)

http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=332714

http://www.onoff.com/online/se/inet.nsf/vProd/37826?opendocument&URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.onoff.com%2Fonline%2Fse%2Finet.nsf%2FvProd%2F37826%3Fopendocument&Par=PR_SITEse%2CREFERERwww.google.se

http://www.elgiganten.se/is-bin/INTERSHOP.enfinity/WFS/store-elgigantenSE-Site/sv_SE/-/SEK/El_DisplayProductInformation-Start;pgid=p2Gz6oZKCO5SR0EjA9JBwx1h0000jxJrLQV4?ProductID=aNDD4QFHHfEAAAEc3ukkibiK&CatalogCategoryID=n9PD4QFHfS0AAAEOHURZtSxX

http://www.onoff.com/online/se/inet.nsf/vProd/54378?opendocument&markID=20-95-80

I am sorry i can't read Swedish, but i could make out was that you are planning to buy a New PC, right?
Glad to help if you could provide the specification you want

I already know what I want but I need to make sure that it's worth the money. And you don't have to know english... Sapphire Radeon for an instance, is still called Sapphire Radeon

Sapphire Radeon is universally called Sapphire Radeon, but the currency and price Differs?
Also the Configuration also depends, that's the reason i asked for the specification which allows to compare the prices, which would need much more than Just the name of the Graphic card

Cooler Master Centurion 590 Black, Aluminium Front (Without PSU)
Seasonic S12Energy+ PSU 650W, 120mm Fan, ATX/EPS, 2xPCI-E, 6xSATA, 20/24pin
AMD Phenom II X3 720 Black Edition, Triple Core, 2,8Ghz, AM3, 95W, Boxed
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 4096MB CL5, Kit w/two matched CM2X2048-6400 Dimm's
Sapphire Radeon HD 4850X2 1GB GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI, HDMI, HDCP, Full-Retail
Gigabyte GA-MA78G-UD3H, Socket-AM2+/AM3, AMD 780G+SB700, ATX, DDR2 , Firewire, GbLAN, HDMI, PCI-Ex(2.0)x16
Hitachi Deskstar P7K500 500GB SATA, 7200RPM, 16MB Cache
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5200A, DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW, OEM, IDE, Black

LOGITECH Lasermus G5

Samsung SyncMaster T220

SAITEK ECLIPSE II

That's what you wanted?

This may be long winded, but may serves as a guide to those who wanna DIY your own rig.

PSU :
Its more depend on your liking, but dosnt matter if u wanna build a new rig. IMO, invest on a high efficient + modular/non-modular PSU Cheaper solution can be Andyson, Seasonic, OCZ.If want to go high end, go for cosair HX series(thumbs up). I recommend around 600W< power supply as the upcoming graphic card may tend to consume less power compared to now, even SLI GTX260. Anything that exceed that may not be useless unless you are a gaming fanatic which uses larger monitor which require more graphic power.
(low quality powersupply may cause damage to your hardware during power fluctuations)(Low efficiency power supply may not be able to channel enough power to your hardware as it may be weaken overtime)

MOBO/GRAPHIC :
Its another IMO. weather its Nvidia or ATI, Intel or AMD, it all up to you. For me, i will go for AMD for being reason 1 : Bang for bucks. The current dragon platform undeniably beat Nvidia hands down. With chipset like the newest 780/790/790FX(4 way). Although you would say SLI>Crossfire, but with its onboard graphic chip, its like no others. This is because the graphic chip will not be disabled when you plug a graphic card in but it will accelerate it. I've seen videos of people even using this onboard chip to play one of the latest graphic demanding game in youtube, GTA4 in medium mode. Its very impressive and smart of AMD to buy over ATI unlike Nvidia and Intel struggling to shoot down each other, like the current ion platform and the i5 processors. With 600+W high efficient PSU, u can power up a crossfire platform of the current HD4890 or older ones. For the limitation of using phenom processors is not an issue either. The phenom 2 processors are now on par or even more power compared with the less powerful series of i7 processors. Overall price/performance = value, AMD/ATI combo still leads. If you prefer Nvidia mobo for SLI, i think that it is not worth its price as both amd and intel manufacture crossfire board which tends to be far cheaper than SLI board.

RAM :
Dosnt matter much. DDR2-800/1066 and O.C if required.(depend on mobo chipset)
DDR3 ram supported MOBO :
AMD 780G/790s
INTEL X58
Nvdia 790i

Hardisk :
Very simple, weather SCSI or High RPM, SSD or normal storage is all up to your needs.

CPU fan :
Check your wallet, like the design, see the reviews.(Things like noise and size limitation may be taken into consideration)

Casing :
Cheap : Normal SECC with plenty of holes for airflow will do.
High end : Full aluminum + watercooling/aircool.

MOBO, Casing, PSU
ATX casing -> Midtower/ Fulltower | ATX size PSU or extended ATX size PSU
MATX casing -> Small form factor | most support up to ATX size PSU only

Others : Some small form factor casing may limit the size of you cpu cooler or graphic card, be sure to double check before buying.

My opinion may differ from others and may tend to be bias and please correct any grammatical mistakes/misinformation as i wrote this on the fly.

Well those components were in a computer packet. It's quite cheap and can take the newest games. However, I heard that I could need some extra fans for this particular computer so it would be greatly appreciated if you helped me with that instead

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Well those components were in a computer packet. It's quite cheap and can take the newest games. However, I heard that I could need some extra fans for this particular computer so it would be greatly appreciated if you helped me with that instead

1st thing u need to know, hot air rises and most probably being pumped out by the psu first. From what I've feel, 2-3 casing fan is ample. Take for example a 120mm fan in the front panel with wire mesh/fan grill pump will air in, you can have 1 80mm fan at the back near the I/O plate so that the air that passes through the cpu fan gets pumped out. You can also get ATI cards with non reference design which pumps air out instead of throwing the hot air in the case. Most probably you will get HIS cards for its factory overclocked and its brilliant cooler. If you wanna speed up the cycle, u can always throw in more fan in the front panel and the back. For cpu fan, get those with more heatpipes or pure copper heatsink. The design of the cpu fan must be able to direct the air to the back of the case, not dispersing it. Also make sure to side cover of the casing is covered as most likely to find holes there as it will destroy the air cycle. Unless you have place a case fan near the cpu fan on the side cover to speed up the cycle, seal it up.

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So if I bought:

1 of these: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=330802

2 of these: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=319310

3 of these: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=316478

What would the result be?

InsanityVonMike wrote:

So if I bought:

1 of these: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=330802

2 of these: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=319310

3 of these: http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=316478

What would the result be?

1)The zalman vga cooler will dump the hot air back into the case.
2)CPU and casing fan not an issue.
however :
I dont think you need a zalman vga cooler if you use HIS card or 4870 reference fan and onwards. Idle for HIS is around 50+- degrees.

Secondly, zalman CNPS9700 is undeniably good but im not the fan of it price.

My go :

CPU fan
Scythe Kantana 2 - http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=335080
ASUS Silent Knight II - http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=343076
Xigmatek Achilles S1284 - http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=393520

GPU :
XFX Radeon HD 4890 1GB "xXx" GDDR5 - http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=447807
HIS Radeon HD 4890 1GB GDDR5 - http://www.komplett.se/k/ki.aspx?sku=444795

Conclusion -> Can be improved. little value in choosen cpu cooler, Zalman = overprice unless you're a zalman fanboy.

Others :

Casing fan dosnt matter much, just need to know that the air inside is constantly being cycled is good enough. Hope you get what i mean.

DX11 ATI cards coming out during july, i advise you to go for cheaper solutions as u might consider to change graphic card soon.

Well the fact that I'm about to buy a Sapphire Radeon 4850 X2 and all the other components is already settled. However, I believe that the computer will easily get hot (I need it really cool) and become noisy - That's the problem.

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Well the fact that I'm about to buy a Sapphire Radeon 4850 X2 and all the other components is already settled. However, I believe that the computer will easily get hot (I need it really cool) and become noisy - That's the problem.

4850X2 or in crossfire? from what i believe, if u dont have an aluminium casing, stick with cooler which fan exhaust the heat out of the casing. By having another additional fan facing the card/s will allow more air molecules to come in contact with heatsink hence allowing heat to be exhale out at a faster rate. This zalman fan will most likely to be warmer as warm air will clot the area first before it rises to the top. Its like recycling warmed air.

No it's not crossfire, it just got the name 'cause it's as good as two cards. And I'm saying it again... this is a computer packet and pretty happy about. The question is if I need more fans to keep it quiet and cool (and if I got the space for it). And I'm not a zalman fan ^^

InsanityVonMike wrote:

No it's not crossfire, it just got the name 'cause it's as good as two cards. And I'm saying it again... this is a computer packet and pretty happy about. The question is if I need more fans to keep it quiet and cool (and if I got the space for it). And I'm not a zalman fan ^^

Just say HD4850X2 or HD 4850 x2, i didnt understand cause u were switching in each post >.> For i dont recommend HD4850X2 but if u insist, the only way is to get super cool -> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=125240 Able to reach 40+- idle. or the best u can do is place a fan directly in front of the graphic card but i cannot assure it can really keep cool.(FME only - a couple of degree)
Asus have a 4870X2 with tri-fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121294 but i can say it totally destroy the airflow int he case.

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850X2 1GB GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI, HDMI, HDCP, Full-Retail

But shouldn't an already pre-made computer packet handle some heat?

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Sapphire Radeon HD 4850X2 1GB GDDR3, PCI-Express 2.0, 2xDVI, HDMI, HDCP, Full-Retail

But shouldn't an already pre-made computer packet handle some heat?

After looking at some reviews, the heat level is acceptable. But as i said, heat may slowly clot up if warm air is not being exhaust fast enough, so it may be higher after some time. Another thing is that this card will have audible noise when under load. I suggest u get a HD4890

3DMark Vantage Extreme(benchmark @ extreme settings)

Reference HD4890
coreclocked :850MHz
memory clocked :975 MHz
GDDR5:1024MB

GPU benchmark of 4640
-----------------------------------
Sapphire HD 4850X2
coreclocked :625MHz
memory clocked :993MHz
GDDR3:2047MB

GPU benchmark of 5520

Source :
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-hd-4890,2262-12.html
http://vr-zone.com/articles/sapphire-hd-4850x2-first-look--tested/6157.html?doc=6157

I did some research to aid u to find your ideal card, hope this does help you. Remember that the 4890 is less hot, consume less power and still a reference design. Not to mention the price...

You said "when under load". So by that, if you bought a good extra fan, it would suddenly turn quiet?

InsanityVonMike wrote:

You said "when under load". So by that, if you bought a good extra fan, it would suddenly turn quiet?

More load => more heat => fan works harder => more noise
1 question, where do you place the extra fan to reduce the heat? The heat is being spread around the card, not 1 way. You can imagine your HD4850X2 in your casing and try to use the convection theory on how to place your fan to maximize heat diverting. If you even suceed doing it, there will be less noise as the fan do not need to work so hard to keep your gpu cool. In additional, your extra fan may add to the noise. Answer : No, it wont suddenly turn quiet as you are at most be able to cut off a few degrees.

Trust me, you will regret buying that. Many people are having headache trying too sell off their HD4xxxX2.

Hm... you're probably right... unfortunately. I'll continue my quest for a better and still cheap computer...

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Hm... you're probably right... unfortunately. I'll continue my quest for a better and still cheap computer...

Gd luck, for any enquires, you can post it here.
My sudden comeback in geekpolice is by the request of doctor inferno so to help out the hardware section.

What about this one?

In-Win J649 ATX MidiTower, black, USB2.0, Audio, Airduct, 120mm fan (Without PSU)
Seasonic M12-II PSU 500W, 120mm Fan, Modular Cables, 80Plus, PCI-E 6+2 1x
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L, P45, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, PCI-Ex(2.0)x16
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2,33GHz, Socket 775, 4MB, 1333MHz, Boxed w/Fan
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 4096MB CL5, Kit w/two matched CM2X2048-6400 Dimm's
MSI GeForce GTX 260 896MB PhysX CUDA, PCI-Express 2.0, "OC" 2xDVI, HDCP, Core 216, Graphics Plus, 3D Stereo, 55nm
Samsung SpinPoint F1 750GB SATA2 32MB 7200RPM
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5200A, DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW, OEM, IDE, Black
Antistatic Armchain 180cm

InsanityVonMike wrote:

What about this one?

In-Win J649 ATX MidiTower, black, USB2.0, Audio, Airduct, 120mm fan (Without PSU)
Seasonic M12-II PSU 500W, 120mm Fan, Modular Cables, 80Plus, PCI-E 6+2 1x
Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L, P45, Socket-775, ATX, GbLAN, DDR2, PCI-Ex(2.0)x16
Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 2,33GHz, Socket 775, 4MB, 1333MHz, Boxed w/Fan
Corsair TWIN2X 6400 DDR2, 4096MB CL5, Kit w/two matched CM2X2048-6400 Dimm's
MSI GeForce GTX 260 896MB PhysX CUDA, PCI-Express 2.0, "OC" 2xDVI, HDCP, Core 216, Graphics Plus, 3D Stereo, 55nm
Samsung SpinPoint F1 750GB SATA2 32MB 7200RPM
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5200A, DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW, OEM, IDE, Black
Antistatic Armchain 180cm

Im fine with the psu but the graphic card is not worthy as its not core 216.
If you wanna use MATX, theres some AMD 790 chipset MATX which i will recommend DFI lanparty JR series. Its only cost afew dollars more then Gigabyte GA-EP45-DS3L and you get a crossfire board with 2 x pcie2.0 @x8speed equivalent to 2 x PCIE1.0x16 @x16speed, not much loss of speed.
Phenom 2 920 and 940 > Intel Core 2 Quad Q8200 (3dMark06 source:http://www.legitreviews.com/article/896/11/) and only cost afew dollars more but much better overclocking ability.
My recommendation only cost afew bucks more but you will get better results in playing modern games. Remember to get a higher wattage PSU if u intent to SLI or Xfire in the future, PSU is also a investment so think thrice. Im fine with the rest as it is most likely to be a personal preference.

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MSI GeForce GTX 260 896MB PhysX CUDA, PCI-Express 2.0, "OC" 2xDVI, HDCP, Core 216, Graphics Plus, 3D Stereo, 55nm

InsanityVonMike wrote:

MSI GeForce GTX 260 896MB PhysX CUDA, PCI-Express 2.0, "OC" 2xDVI, HDCP, Core 216, Graphics Plus, 3D Stereo, 55nm

opps! my bad, i thought the non-OCed version dosnt have core 216. However, the performance wise still lose to HD4890 alone, not to mention acceleration of the amd chipset. Peace to Nvidia lovers, just stating the truth.

So how will the GTX 260 Core 216 run on Crysis, Farcry 2 and assassin's creed? (also compared to the hd4890 as you are talking about)

InsanityVonMike wrote:

So how will the GTX 260 Core 216 run on Crysis, Farcry 2 and assassin's creed? (also compared to the hd4890 as you are talking about)

It even perform better than the 260 on some games that PhysX compatible which the nvidia will gain some advantage.

Source taken from http://benchmarkreviews.com/

True but that's not the core 216 is it?

InsanityVonMike wrote:

True but that's not the core 216 is it?

Video Card Test Products
Product Series NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GT Reference Design Sapphire Radeon HD 4850 102-B50102-00-AT NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260216 Reference Design Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 102-B50701-10-AT ASUS Radeon HD 4890 EAH4890 TOP ASUS GeForce GTX 285 ENGTX285 TOP Sapphire Radeon HD 4870 X2 Atomic ST-6026 NVIDIA GeForce GTX 295 Reference Design
Stream Processors 112 800 216 800 800 240 1600 480
Core Clock (MHz) 600 625 576 750 900 670 800 576
Shader Clock (MHz) 1457 N/A 1242 N/A N/A 1550 N/A 1242
Memory Clock (MHz) 950 993 999 900 975 1300 1000 999
Memory Amount 512 MB GDDR3 512 MB GDDR3 896 MB GDDR3

512 MB GDDR5
896 MB GDDR3 1024 MB GDDR3 1024MB (x2) GDDR5 1024MB (x2) GDDR3
Memory Interface 256-bit 256-bit 448-bit 256-bit 256-bit 512-bit 256-bit 512-bit

Yes, it is core 216 http://benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=317&Itemid=72&limit=1&limitstart=4

How does MSI differ to the XFX?

InsanityVonMike wrote:

How does MSI differ to the XFX?

People said that XFX has better temperature as i think might be the cause of the same concept behind HIS/ATI4870^ Reference designs. XFX also have the xXx edition which are extremely factory overclocked.

Well I'm not super rich. Let's say I buy the MSI GTX 260 Core 216... will it lag on highest settings when you run games like crysis? Also, what will the temperature be?

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Well I'm not super rich. Let's say I buy the MSI GTX 260 Core 216... will it lag on highest settings when you run games like crysis? Also, what will the temperature be?

Well, in lower resolutions, u may be able to play crysis in high settings(not ultra)without AA with no problem, any higher resolution may only barely made it through. (our eyes only can see 25fps)(Barely made it through = 30-40fps). Refer to the table.

Temperature should also be fine 50+- at idle and 60+- on load. Fan will most likely to be inaudible.

Hm... I don't like the price but what about this one?

NZXT HUSH, Black Aluminum Front, 2X Blue LED Fans, Screwless design,(Without PSU)
Corsair Powersupply 750W Black, ATX Bulk, 140mm Fan, 8xSATA, SLI
(2x) XFX GeForce 9800GT 670M 512MB PhysX CUDA, PCI-Express 2.0, "XXX", 2xDVI, HDCP, Graphics Plus, 3D Stereo, 670/1950MHz
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz, Socket LGA775, 6MB, 1333Mhz BOXED w/fan
Kingston DDR2 HyperX PC8500 4096MB CL7, Kit 2x matched HyperX 2GB DDR2
Asus P5N-D, nForce-750i SLI, Socket-775, ATX,Firewire,GbLAN,DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)16
Western Digital Caviar GreenPower 1TB, Sata 3 Gb/s, 32MB Cache
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5200A, DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW, OEM, IDE, Black
Creative Headset HS600 adjustable headset with Mic and volumecontrol
Powercable 2m
Antistatic Armchain 180cm

Tell me about the temperature, sound and how well it will go on ulta high settings. And yes, that's two video cards.

And I really appreciate your effort btw

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Hm... I don't like the price but what about this one?

NZXT HUSH, Black Aluminum Front, 2X Blue LED Fans, Screwless design,(Without PSU)
Corsair Powersupply 750W Black, ATX Bulk, 140mm Fan, 8xSATA, SLI
(2x) XFX GeForce 9800GT 670M 512MB PhysX CUDA, PCI-Express 2.0, "XXX", 2xDVI, HDCP, Graphics Plus, 3D Stereo, 670/1950MHz
Intel Core 2 Duo E8400 3.0GHz, Socket LGA775, 6MB, 1333Mhz BOXED w/fan
Kingston DDR2 HyperX PC8500 4096MB CL7, Kit 2x matched HyperX 2GB DDR2
Asus P5N-D, nForce-750i SLI, Socket-775, ATX,Firewire,GbLAN,DDR2, 2xPCI-Ex(2.0)16
Western Digital Caviar GreenPower 1TB, Sata 3 Gb/s, 32MB Cache
Sony NEC Optiarc DVD±RW burner AD-5200A, DVD+R/+RW/DVD-R/-RW, OEM, IDE, Black
Creative Headset HS600 Justerbart headset Med Mic och volymkontroll
Powercable 2m
Antistatic Armchain 180cm


Tell me about the temperature, sound and how well it will go on ulta high settings. And yes, that's two video cards.

1)Price of 2 x 9800GT = 1 x 260(core 216), rather u get 1 x 216 so u can SLI with another GTX2xx series card.
2)Your motherboard support up to DDR2-PC6400 only, getting a PC8500 and CL7 ram is totally overkill.
3)Get a sata DVD burner instead, IDE cable block airflow.
4)Get HX series of cosair instead, TX series isnt modular nor u need so much of power.(Thumbs up to Cosair HX620)

2X9800GT SLI may beat a single GTX260 by in crysis, but others shows that the GTX260 stays as the winner. In conclusion, its not worth SLI cause u need to have the card of same series to setup a SLI. Which means u cant SLI and 9800GT with any of the GTX2xx. Unlike buying a GTX260, you can SLI with any of the current cards, GTX260, 275, 280, 285, 295.

Well as said before, those were the packets... however, it would be very very appreciated if you tried to create a computer for me here: http://jmedata.se/CBC.aspx?q=c:100158 try to keep the price below 9000sek if possible

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Well as said before, those were the packets... however, it would be very very appreciated if you tried to create a computer for me here: http://jmedata.se/CBC.aspx?q=c:100158 try to keep the price below 9000sek if possible

I'll try, cant really read it.. lol

InsanityVonMike wrote:

Well as said before, those were the packets... however, it would be very very appreciated if you tried to create a computer for me here: http://jmedata.se/CBC.aspx?q=c:100158 try to keep the price below 9000sek if possible

Choose : Red or Green

ill try newegg

blue if possible

EDIT: uhh we could need a chat for this... do you have msn or something alike?

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InsanityVonMike wrote:

blue if possible

red = ati setup
green = nvidia setup
-.-

haha lol i thought you meant the case.. nvidia or ati - doesn't matter too much