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Backup/Restore programs & routines [open topic] -- meaning, rather than me simply posting what I do for backups and restores, I'd like to have several others give their ideas also.

Very briefly, my three computers each have two pancake platter-driven usb ext HDs, each of those HDs contain full images of "C drive" [OS partition] and "D drive" [data partition] which are made during one session [4 backups in all] about once weekly or at least, bi-monthly.

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I myself never needed to image my computer but i do use Acronis True Image to backup my personal files.

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I tend to use many drive storages: Box, Google Drive, Microsoft OneDrive, ASUS Cloud, Amazon Cloud, etc.

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I like ClickFree backup. It's the simplest I've found yet. It copies files to an external hard drive in native format so you don't have to mess with imaging software to get to your files when your computer dies. If you delete a file on your computer, it's not deleted on the backup. That comes in handy if you accidentally delete a file. Too bad the company is out of business.

Now, back that up with a cloud copy of your files in addition to an occasional image using Acronis True Image or similar application of your choosing.

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Clickfree hardware and software still available?

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@Jan2011 - Roland wants to know about Clickfree... Do you have an answer? Smile...

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CrashPlan is another good option for personal files.

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First Response restore and recovery ideas, beliefs, practices, experiences
Borrowing from the philosopher Rene Descartes, let's make the title longer:
First Response ideas, beliefs, practices, experiences for OS & Data: backups, restores, and recoveries.

First Response means what could be done by an end-user who just might be facing:
-- possible physically failing hard-drives [which are often called "c drive" and "d drive]
-- possible logically failing hard-drives [ditto as above line]
OR might be facing:
-- a deleted file and/or folder that needs to be un-deleted
-- a set of deleted files and/or folders that need to be un-deleted
-- folders and files that cannot be simply un-deleted, restored from Windows Recycle Bin
-- deleted folders and files that no longer exist in the MFT [Master File Table]
-- the MFT no longer functions and/or the OS no longer functions
-- the often called "c drive", the OS partition no longer exists [often, this "c drive" also contained the data]
-- the often called "d drive", the data partition no longer exists

First Response Backups mean --
First Response Restores mean --
First Response Recoveries mean --
-- respectively, what could be done by an end-user prior to doing "anything, everything".

Borrowing from Star Trek, the "Prime Directives" are:
-- to preserve and protect end-user's data
-- to preserve and protect end-user's OS
-- to restore what can be restored; data first priority, OS 2nd priority
-- to recover what can be recovered; data first priority, OS 2nd priority

Roland

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http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5661/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
In short - instead of throwing software after software after software at a HD/DATA crisis, I recommend waiting for expert help and advice. This somewhat covers what I recommend as a "first response" instead of numerous restorations and recoveries attempts by many end-users.

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4/3-4 Addendum: I see my first public attempt at a tiny white paper fell flat.  In short, make routine backups so that in the future you can post: My backups restored my Data and/or my OS, I'm back in business!

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Well backups are necessary... But you are goofy. Ahahaha

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Acer Aspire 7741G-6426's S03(YT0)C and S03(YT0)D recovered and restored.

  Normally, this laptop's "c drive" is OS partition S03YT0C, "d drive" is Data partition S03YT0D, 
with a tiny 1GB partition labeled NTFS or whatever between the above two partitions. 
  Thankfully, have been making routine backups of OS and Data onto external media 
(in this case, two dedicated platter-driven, usb, 1TB hard-drives, TCSIIkat & TCSIIkit). 
  From Day One, those two partitions were given unique names that indicated: 
-- which computer, in this one of two laptops, S03 
-- which internal hard-drive, part of the serial number is YT0 
-- which partition, C for OS partition, D for Data partition 

  One day, I interrupted what seemed to be a stalled partition merger between 
an un-allocated partition and S03YT0C; which led to a post, no-boot, no-Windows load. 
  My first correct response concerning disk management was using Acronis Disk Director 12. 
ADD12 showed un-allocated partitions, and S03YT0D -- which was promptly backed up 
onto TSCIIkat.  Made sure that partition was intact by using the disk explore function. 
  My first correct response concerning partition recovery was using MiniTool Partition Wizard 
9.1, which actually is part of my MiniTool Power Data Recovery package; ran it, it found my 
S03YT0C (disk explore showed all the directories); and my S03YT0D became un-allocated. 
S03YT0C was promptly backed up -- Macrium Reflect Pro version being used through-out. 
  Backups took a long time, so at the end of both backups, called it a day and went home. 
   
  The next day, used Acronis Disk Director 12 to re-create S03YT0C and S03YT0D partitions, 
with a tiny 1GB partition labeled NTFS or whatever between the above two partitions. 
Using Macrium Reflect and TSCIIkat, restored S03YT0C and S03YT0D into their respective locations. 
Because I had TSCIIkat connected during a Windows Startup Repair attempt Thursday, I re-ran 
Windows Startup Repair after restoring the partitions - finally, post, boot, and Windows load. 

  Because of the above experience, and previous restoration experiences, wanted to try my hand at 
typing a tiny "white paper" about backup, restore, recovery operations coming from a "first response" 
angle, pictured an analogy -- an ambulance, a first responder. 
  Setting up the OS and Data early on with making routine backups in mind, with sooner or later, 
eventual, restores in mind, seemed to me similar to setting up the ambulance, 
setting up better first responses, in any crisis. 
  Things that could be done by an end-user in the midst of an OS and/or Data crisis 
depend largely upon things done by the end-user long before any such crisis.

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http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5668/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
LadyF; she drives home the point that any restorable backup trumps any data recovery attempt.
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DR comments from DR specialists...

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5665/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
Jared

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5666/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
rogfanther

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5667/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
Mike

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5670/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
data-medics

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5671/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
jono-ats, Data Savers LLC

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5672/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
data-medics and Jeremy

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/sreply/5673/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
data-medics and Jeremy

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Because of the wealth of information provided by data recovery folks in numerous forums on The 'Net, I have these two threads [along with a few others elsewhere] for the purpose of passing on your wisdom and experience, passing on your advice and ideas.

http://collegecafe.fr.yuku.com/topic/1307/Response-Restore-Recovery-ideas-beliefs-practices-exper
college cafe's Computer Technologies;
Thread title: First Response Restore and Recovery ideas, beliefs, practices, experiences

https://www.dost-tech.com/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=730
Dost-Tech's Microsoft Windows Support; subGroup: Backup, Restore, Recovery; Ext/Int FD&HD MGT
Thread title: First Response restore and recovery ideas, beliefs, practices, experiences

Anyone, everyone, is very much welcomed to add content, add comments, ask questions, etc. Those threads hopefully will awaken end-users who are in any sort of data loss crisis, to consider
-- data recovery concepts and practices
-- restoration and copy-back concepts and practices
as a Unified Whole rather than linear parts and parcels.

Also, rather than over and over printing a post in numerous threads across The 'Net, I'm going to print the vast majority of "rollerstoller"-generated stuff in two threads in those two forums.  You all can from time to time visit the above two and see additional stuff.

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First Responses before, during, after OS or Data loss crises.

** Those with Dynamic, RAID, SSD, or 3GB+ setups -- seek advice from those specialists. **

A few good "first responses" PRIOR to any OS and/or Data loss crisis
AND
A few good "first responses" AFTER any OS and/or Data loss crisis
-- using Macrium Reflect, AOMEI Backupper, EaseUS Todo, or anything similar, free or pay-for:
---- routinely make full image backups of one's OS and Data onto affordable and reliable external media; or
---- routinely make a clone of your OS and Data hard-drive onto another reliable hard-drive
---- make usb and dvd boots with your backup/restore utility of choice
[if no cd/dvd device in laptop, if affordable, get a usb cd/dvd device]

During any of the following situations, these three first responses may be best:
1) chill  2) breathe  3) chill

During any file or files deletion loss
If Windows works, if Recycle Bin works - check for any deleted file(s) you want to un-delete.
If Windows works, if you have a 3rd party un-delete program, check that bucket.

During any Windows not working crisis
If no Windows,
OR
During any partition(s) not found crisis
If no partition(s),
Boot backup/restore/cloning utility usb or dvd,
[if no cd/dvd device in laptop, if affordable, get a usb cd/dvd device] and:
-- if possible, make a one-pass DIY clone onto an external HD; or
-- if possible, make a one-pass DIY full image of the hard-drive onto any affordable and reliable external media
-- wait patiently, in whichever forum you're in, for expert advice and help; or
-- if affordable, take it to a local computer fix-it place/specialist and let him/her help you; or
-- if affordable, if possible, send the hard-drive to a data recovery place

During any hard-drive not found crisis
If no hard-drive access, it's mostly either a physical failing or a "logical" failing
There is a fork in the road, you choose which tine, which path, you believe is best --
1)  Boot backup/restore/cloning utility usb or dvd,
     [if no cd/dvd device in laptop, if affordable, get a usb cd/dvd device] and:
-- if possible, make a one-pass DIY clone onto an external HD; or
-- if possible, make a one-pass DIY full image of the hard-drive onto any affordable and reliable external media
OR
-- wait patiently, in whichever forum you're in, for expert advice and help; or
-- if affordable, take it to a local computer fix-it place/specialist and let him/her help you; or 
-- if affordable, if possible, send the hard-drive to a data recovery place

Making a DIY one-pass clone or full image means:
-- the process reads or tries to read each sector only once, there is no re-reading, re-trying any sector
-- the process is started and run, without interruption, to completion
-- when the process "says" it is finished, it is finished and the 2ndCopy HD is put away for safe-keeping
-- if the process interrupts itself at any time or point, the process is finished, the 2ndCopy HD is put away
AND
-- wait patiently, in whichever forum you're in, for expert advice and help before continuing; or
-- if affordable, take it to a local computer fix-it place/specialist and let him/her help you; or
-- if affordable, if possible, send the hard-drive to a data recovery place

This is as far I can go for this article.  I'm hoping data restoration and data recovery specialists
will weigh in with their advice and practicals in future articles.

If you want to see snippits, elsewhere-posted comments of data recovery folks far wiser than I,
gathered from across The 'Net, see my itty bitty place's backup,restore...thread.

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