Geek Police took care of Antivirus System Pro...but I have this problem on another computer...Please Help.
I can't install or run my Malwarebytes or other programs.
Plus google search redirects all links to windowsclick.com.
I tried to download JavaRa as you requested (4x's)...but error message followed and did not install.
Went to www.windowsupdate.com but after 5 minutes of waiting, the page wouldn't load. I did however proceed with windows updates from icon at lower right of desktop.
Please help!
Here are the results from hijackthis.
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 3:06:20 PM, on 7/27/2009
Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18702)
Boot mode: Normal
Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ibmpmsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\AAWService.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\VScan\EngineServer.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\myAgtSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\QCONSVC.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\MANAGE~1\VScan\McShield.exe
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\AAWTray.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY\TPHKMGR.exe
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\ConnectUtilities\QCWLICON.EXE
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities\TpKmapMn.exe
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY\TPONSCR.exe
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY_1\TpScrex.exe
C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\myAgtTry.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe
C:\Program Files\PC Doc Pro v5\PC Doc Pro.exe
C:\Program Files\PC Doc Pro v5\PC Doc Pro Scheduler.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\AcroRd32Info.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\winlogon.exe
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHelperStub - {18DF081C-E8AD-4283-A596-FA578C2EBDC3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelperShim.dll
O2 - BHO: DriveLetterAccess - {5CA3D70E-1895-11CF-8E15-001234567890} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswshx.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_09\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Notifier BHO - {AF69DE43-7D58-4638-B6FA-CE66B5AD205D} - C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\5.1.1309.15642\swg.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BluetoothAuthenticationAgent] rundll32.exe irprops.cpl,,BluetoothAuthenticationAgent
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TPHOTKEY] C:\PROGRA~1\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY\TPHKMGR.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BMMLREF] C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities\BMMLREF.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QCWLICON] C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\ConnectUtilities\QCWLICON.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TPKMAPMN] C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities\TpKmapMn.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MVS Splash] C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\Splash.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [McAfee Managed Services Tray] "C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\StartMyagtTry.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [swg] C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PC Doc Pro Scheduler] C:\Program Files\PC Doc Pro v5\PC Doc Pro Scheduler.exe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [guyuwusimo] Rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\gakikedo.dll",s (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [guyuwusimo] Rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\gakikedo.dll",s (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_09\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_09\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://*.mcafee.com
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://*.mcafee.com (HKLM)
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://betavscan.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://vs.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://www.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://*.mcafee.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://betavscan.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://vs.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://www.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O16 - DPF: Web-Based Email Tools - http://email.secureserver.net/Download.CAB
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {48DD0448-9209-4F81-9F6D-D83562940134} (MySpace Uploader Control) - http://lads.myspace.com/upload/MySpaceUploader1006.cab
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://www.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1205696526515
O16 - DPF: {6E704581-CCAE-46D2-9C64-20D724B3624E} (UnagiAx Class) - http://radaol-prod-web-rr.streamops.aol.com/mediaplugin/3.0.84.2/win32/unagi3.0.84.2.cab
O16 - DPF: {9C23D886-43CB-43DE-B2DB-112A68D7E10A} (MySpace Uploader Control) - http://lads.myspace.com/upload/MySpaceUploader2.cab
O16 - DPF: {BB383206-6DA1-4E80-B62A-3DF950FCC697} (Create & Print ActiveX Plug-in) - http://www.imgag.com/cp/install/AxCtp2.cab
O16 - DPF: {E2883E8F-472F-4FB0-9522-AC9BF37916A7} - http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.cab
O16 - DPF: {EF791A6B-FC12-4C68-99EF-FB9E207A39E6} (McFreeScan Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/iss-loc/mcfscan/2,2,0,5629/mcfscan.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\Parameters: Domain = RedAppleGroup.local
O17 - HKLM\Software\..\Telephony: DomainName = RedAppleGroup.local
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\Parameters: Domain = RedAppleGroup.local
O20 - AppInit_DLLs: C:\WINDOWS\system32\jebikono.dll fqnmae.dll c:\windows\system32\yederoda.dll
O23 - Service: EngineServer - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\VScan\EngineServer.exe
O23 - Service: Google Software Updater (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
O23 - Service: IBM PM Service (IBMPMSVC) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\ibmpmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Lavasoft Ad-Aware Service - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\AAWService.exe
O23 - Service: McShield - McAfee, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\MANAGE~1\VScan\McShield.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Virus and Spyware Protection Service (myAgtSvc) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\myAgtSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SPOOL\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: QCONSVC - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\QCONSVC.EXE
--
End of file - 8081 bytes
Last edited by Melissa on 27th July 2009, 7:49 pm; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : Used can instead of can't...different computer)
I can't install or run my Malwarebytes or other programs.
Plus google search redirects all links to windowsclick.com.
I tried to download JavaRa as you requested (4x's)...but error message followed and did not install.
Went to www.windowsupdate.com but after 5 minutes of waiting, the page wouldn't load. I did however proceed with windows updates from icon at lower right of desktop.
Please help!
Here are the results from hijackthis.
Logfile of Trend Micro HijackThis v2.0.2
Scan saved at 3:06:20 PM, on 7/27/2009
Platform: Windows XP SP3 (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v8.00 (8.00.6001.18702)
Boot mode: Normal
Running processes:
C:\WINDOWS\System32\smss.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\winlogon.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\services.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\lsass.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\ibmpmsvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\AAWService.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\spoolsv.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\VScan\EngineServer.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\myAgtSvc.exe
C:\WINDOWS\System32\QCONSVC.EXE
C:\WINDOWS\System32\svchost.exe
C:\WINDOWS\Explorer.EXE
C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\MANAGE~1\VScan\McShield.exe
C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\AAWTray.exe
C:\PROGRA~1\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY\TPHKMGR.exe
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\ConnectUtilities\QCWLICON.EXE
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities\TpKmapMn.exe
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY\TPONSCR.exe
C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY_1\TpScrex.exe
C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe
C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\myAgtTry.exe
C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe
C:\Program Files\PC Doc Pro v5\PC Doc Pro.exe
C:\Program Files\PC Doc Pro v5\PC Doc Pro Scheduler.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Internet Explorer\Iexplore.exe
C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\AcroRd32Info.exe
C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator\Desktop\winlogon.exe
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Page_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Default_Search_URL = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R1 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Search Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=54896
R0 - HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Main,Start Page = http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=69157
O2 - BHO: (no name) - {02478D38-C3F9-4efb-9B51-7695ECA05670} - (no file)
O2 - BHO: AcroIEHelperStub - {18DF081C-E8AD-4283-A596-FA578C2EBDC3} - C:\Program Files\Common Files\Adobe\Acrobat\ActiveX\AcroIEHelperShim.dll
O2 - BHO: DriveLetterAccess - {5CA3D70E-1895-11CF-8E15-001234567890} - C:\WINDOWS\system32\dla\tfswshx.dll
O2 - BHO: SSVHelper Class - {761497BB-D6F0-462C-B6EB-D4DAF1D92D43} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_09\bin\ssv.dll
O2 - BHO: Google Toolbar Notifier BHO - {AF69DE43-7D58-4638-B6FA-CE66B5AD205D} - C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\5.1.1309.15642\swg.dll
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BluetoothAuthenticationAgent] rundll32.exe irprops.cpl,,BluetoothAuthenticationAgent
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TPHOTKEY] C:\PROGRA~1\ThinkPad\PkgMgr\HOTKEY\TPHKMGR.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [BMMLREF] C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities\BMMLREF.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QCWLICON] C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\ConnectUtilities\QCWLICON.EXE
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [TPKMAPMN] C:\Program Files\ThinkPad\Utilities\TpKmapMn.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [MVS Splash] C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\Splash.exe
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [McAfee Managed Services Tray] "C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\StartMyagtTry.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [QuickTime Task] "C:\Program Files\QuickTime\qttask.exe" -atboottime
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [Adobe Reader Speed Launcher] "C:\Program Files\Adobe\Reader 9.0\Reader\Reader_sl.exe"
O4 - HKLM\..\Run: [KernelFaultCheck] %systemroot%\system32\dumprep 0 -k
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:\WINDOWS\system32\ctfmon.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [swg] C:\Program Files\Google\GoogleToolbarNotifier\GoogleToolbarNotifier.exe
O4 - HKCU\..\Run: [PC Doc Pro Scheduler] C:\Program Files\PC Doc Pro v5\PC Doc Pro Scheduler.exe
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-19\..\Run: [guyuwusimo] Rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\gakikedo.dll",s (User 'LOCAL SERVICE')
O4 - HKUS\S-1-5-20\..\Run: [guyuwusimo] Rundll32.exe "C:\WINDOWS\system32\gakikedo.dll",s (User 'NETWORK SERVICE')
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft Excel - res://C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\EXCEL.EXE/3000
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_09\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Sun Java Console - {08B0E5C0-4FCB-11CF-AAA5-00401C608501} - C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_09\bin\ssv.dll
O9 - Extra button: Research - {92780B25-18CC-41C8-B9BE-3C9C571A8263} - C:\PROGRA~1\MICROS~2\OFFICE11\REFIEBAR.DLL
O9 - Extra button: (no name) - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: @xpsp3res.dll,-20001 - {e2e2dd38-d088-4134-82b7-f2ba38496583} - C:\WINDOWS\Network Diagnostic\xpnetdiag.exe
O9 - Extra button: Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O9 - Extra 'Tools' menuitem: Windows Messenger - {FB5F1910-F110-11d2-BB9E-00C04F795683} - C:\Program Files\Messenger\msmsgs.exe
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://*.mcafee.com
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://*.mcafee.com (HKLM)
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://betavscan.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://vs.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - Trusted Zone: http://www.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://*.mcafee.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://betavscan.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://vs.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O15 - ESC Trusted Zone: http://www.mcafeeasap.com (HKLM)
O16 - DPF: Web-Based Email Tools - http://email.secureserver.net/Download.CAB
O16 - DPF: {17492023-C23A-453E-A040-C7C580BBF700} (Windows Genuine Advantage Validation Tool) - http://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?linkid=39204
O16 - DPF: {48DD0448-9209-4F81-9F6D-D83562940134} (MySpace Uploader Control) - http://lads.myspace.com/upload/MySpaceUploader1006.cab
O16 - DPF: {6E32070A-766D-4EE6-879C-DC1FA91D2FC3} (MUWebControl Class) - http://www.update.microsoft.com/microsoftupdate/v6/V5Controls/en/x86/client/muweb_site.cab?1205696526515
O16 - DPF: {6E704581-CCAE-46D2-9C64-20D724B3624E} (UnagiAx Class) - http://radaol-prod-web-rr.streamops.aol.com/mediaplugin/3.0.84.2/win32/unagi3.0.84.2.cab
O16 - DPF: {9C23D886-43CB-43DE-B2DB-112A68D7E10A} (MySpace Uploader Control) - http://lads.myspace.com/upload/MySpaceUploader2.cab
O16 - DPF: {BB383206-6DA1-4E80-B62A-3DF950FCC697} (Create & Print ActiveX Plug-in) - http://www.imgag.com/cp/install/AxCtp2.cab
O16 - DPF: {E2883E8F-472F-4FB0-9522-AC9BF37916A7} - http://platformdl.adobe.com/NOS/getPlusPlus/1.6/gp.cab
O16 - DPF: {EF791A6B-FC12-4C68-99EF-FB9E207A39E6} (McFreeScan Class) - http://download.mcafee.com/molbin/iss-loc/mcfscan/2,2,0,5629/mcfscan.cab
O17 - HKLM\System\CCS\Services\Tcpip\Parameters: Domain = RedAppleGroup.local
O17 - HKLM\Software\..\Telephony: DomainName = RedAppleGroup.local
O17 - HKLM\System\CS1\Services\Tcpip\Parameters: Domain = RedAppleGroup.local
O20 - AppInit_DLLs: C:\WINDOWS\system32\jebikono.dll fqnmae.dll c:\windows\system32\yederoda.dll
O23 - Service: EngineServer - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\VScan\EngineServer.exe
O23 - Service: Google Software Updater (gusvc) - Google - C:\Program Files\Google\Common\Google Updater\GoogleUpdaterService.exe
O23 - Service: IBM PM Service (IBMPMSVC) - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\ibmpmsvc.exe
O23 - Service: Lavasoft Ad-Aware Service - Lavasoft - C:\Program Files\Lavasoft\Ad-Aware\AAWService.exe
O23 - Service: McShield - McAfee, Inc. - C:\PROGRA~1\McAfee\MANAGE~1\VScan\McShield.exe
O23 - Service: McAfee Virus and Spyware Protection Service (myAgtSvc) - McAfee, Inc. - C:\Program Files\McAfee\Managed VirusScan\Agent\myAgtSvc.exe
O23 - Service: Pml Driver HPZ12 - HP - C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SPOOL\DRIVERS\W32X86\3\HPZipm12.exe
O23 - Service: QCONSVC - Unknown owner - C:\WINDOWS\System32\QCONSVC.EXE
--
End of file - 8081 bytes
Last edited by Melissa on 27th July 2009, 7:49 pm; edited 3 times in total (Reason for editing : Used can instead of can't...different computer)